Ibrahim Natatou is the secretary of education of Niger.

易卜拉欣·纳塔图是尼日尔的教育部长。

The force behind the reforms, Michael Gove, a Conservative former secretary of education, is sometimes maligned for other political reasons (especially among opponents of Brexit, which he championed).

这些改革背后的力量，保守党前教育大臣迈克尔·戈夫，有时会因为其他政治原因而遭到中伤（尤其是他支持英国脱欧，成为了反派的一份子）。

To begin, I'm joined by Margaret Spellings, the former U.S. secretary of education under President George W. Bush, and the former head of the University of North Carolina system.

首先，我邀请到了乔治·W·布什总统时期的美国教育部长、北卡罗莱纳大学系统的前校长玛格丽特·斯佩林斯。