John Sterman leads the Sloan Sustainability Initiative at Massachusetts Institute of Technology.

约翰·斯特曼是麻省理工学院斯隆可持续发展项目的负责人。

The offsets also have to be verifiable in data, immediate and long-lasting, said John Sterman, a professor at Massachusetts Institute of Technology.

麻省理工学院教授约翰·斯特曼表示，这些补偿还必须在数据中得到即时和长期的验证。