In this interview with BBC World Service programme, Outlook, Archbishop Tutu remembers one terrifying incident involving his wife, Leah, who had gone to the Johannesburg traffic department to renew a car licence.

在接受BBC世界服务栏目《展望》的采访时，图图大主教回忆起一件涉及他的妻子利亚的可怕的事情。当时，她去约翰内斯堡交通部门续领一张汽车牌照。